Ros. Responsa 27 b

Ros. Responsa 27 b

Kashrut

1936

Bibliotheca Rosenthaliana

Joseph Hirsch (Jo) Dünner

DünnerJ

Jore De'a

TRUE

The status of a meal (kashrut) prepared by a non-Jew for both a Jewish and a non-Jewish wedding that may include chicken not properly slaughtered.

In a town where there are no Jews that sell birds, a non-Jewish caterer accepted to prepare a wedding dinner under rabbinical supervision. And he also had accepted to prepare a dinner for non-Jews for the same day. And in order not create any (kashrut) doubts through some mixture, he decided to prepare and to cook everything for the two meals together under the watch of the guard which the rabbis had appointed to supervise him from beginning to end. And accordingly he purchased new pots, and new utensils for the preparation of the two meals. And he purchased kosher meat and also in his yard, i.e. the yard of the non-Jew, next to his house the Shochet slaughtered all the birds required for the two meals. And behold before the Shochet wanted to slaughter the last bird, he forgot to inspect the knife (for flaws), and after the slaughtered the last bird he immediately saw that his knife was flawed. Therefore he told the guard that the last two birds are not kosher. But the guard as he was busy did not hear correctly and thought that only one of the birds was not kosher, and thus only removed one from the yard, and the other one remained in the yard among the other birds, when the non-Jewish assistants removed the feathers from the slaughtered birds. And behold in the afternoon after the wedding ceremony the Shochet asked the guard in passing, because the guard was one of the wedding witnesses, what had happened to the two birds. And when the guard heard this he answered in shock:"yes indeed I removed one of the birds from the yard but I do not know which one of the two birds". And at that time in the afternoon all the meat had been cooked, and the birds, some of them were in one pot, for use at the wedding dinner, and the remaining birds were in another pot for the non-Jewish dinner. And the Rabbi who had led the wedding ceremony was still there and the guard approached him to ask him what to do.