Ros. 1889 B 9(1) b
Title
Ros. 1889 B 9(1) b
Subject
Kashrut
Source
Date
1885
Rights
Bibliotheca Rosenthaliana
Author Long Name
Abraham Samson Onderwijzer
Author Short Name
Onderwijzer
Category
Jore De'a
Legible
TRUE
Question Summary
A non-kosher chicken is mixed among 4 others, a woman thinks she found the non-kosher one, cooks the others and the husband demands she ask the rabbi.
Question Full
A woman has 4 kosher chickens and her non-Jewish neighbour has one chicken which became non-kosher while being slaughtered. They are all in the room of the Jewish woman. And the heads and some of the feathers had been removed from the chickens, some in this corner some in that corner. When the women heard a scream from the street, they ran quickly to the window in that room to see what was happening. And when each woman went back to her place in the room, the non-Jewish woman found in her corner two chickens and the Jewish woman found three chickens in her corner. They thought that a child in the room dragged one of the kosher chickens to be next to the non-kosher one. And the Jewish woman then cried out and the non-Jewish woman then became frightened and took the two chickens in her corner to the three chickens in the other corner, and neither woman knows which chicken is not kosher. Then the Jewish woman suggested they open all the all the chickens and remove the innards and in that way they will be able to identify the non-kosher one. She thought, in her simplicity, that a chicken becomes non-kosher by having a needle in its gizzard and that the Shochet is an expert at detecting such needles and when he finds one then the animal is declared non-kosher. And that is what they proceeded to do, and indeed they found a needle in one of the gizzards and in another chicken they found it missed its bile. The Jewish woman then offered the chicken with the needle to the non-Jewish woman, and suggested she take the other four, and that is what they did. The Jewish woman then properly salted and rinsed her chickens, and placed them in a pot with soup, and 1/2 hour before Shabbat she told her husband, who had just come home, everything that had occurred, and how in her wisdom she found the non-kosher chicken. Her husband replied that he is very dubious as to weather the chicken, soup and pots are permitted, and suggested she quickly go to the rabbi to inquire.
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“Ros. 1889 B 9(1) b,” Pri Ets Haim Amsterdam Responsa, accessed April 13, 2025, https://pehh.library.utoronto.ca/items/show/2524.